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A lot of expats have both lived and worked in Cambodia and Thailand, and this area is a place to discuss all aspects of life in Thailand and what's going on there. Nick Pearson 2014; by potty Thu Oct 09, 2014 1:08 am, Post Part of the reason for coming out, was to go to Koh Tao. Ill leave this post up anyway for anyone whos interested. Thailand is Cambodia's neighbor to the West, and this forum is dedicated to Thai news, stories, reviews, blogs, videos, Thai people and anything else related to the country. Block of flats among this week's plans Block of flats among this week's plans, Four-bed cottage with amphitheatre style gardens is for sale for 745,000, Defence from Riley Peckham continues as he explains relationship with his father Defence from Riley Peckham continues as he explains relationship with his father, 'You stupid boy!' Laura Daniels, 30, died in hospital on Monday just five years and one day after her sister Hannah, 23, and fellow traveller David Miller, 24, were murdered on a beach in Thailand. They were sentenced to death over the murder of Hannah Witheridge. Miss Witheridge of Hemsby near Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, was raped before she and Mr Miller from Jersey were battered to death with a hoe on a beach on the island of Koh Tao on September 15, 2014. Bernd Grotsch 2017; 81 castielsbitch 5 yr. ago That's so strange, because honestly the body was the first thing I spotted. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. [47] Thailand's National Human Rights Commission attempted to investigate the allegations, but police representatives did not appear at four scheduled meetings. The worst part is her face. [53], The prosecution's case focused on findings of the police and medical examiner, with an emphasis on the DNA evidence. [67] Protesters called for the release of the two suspects, who they believed were innocent and scapegoated for the crime. The bodies of Hannah Witheridge, 23, from Hemsby, and David Miller, 24, from Jersey, were found on a Koh Tao beach. Last month, the tragic revelation that backpackers Hannah Witheridge, 23, from Norfolk and David Miller, 24, from Jersey had been murdered on the holiday island of Koh . DO NOT go in blind. Thai courts have rejected accusations of torture and ruled that DNA evidence linked the workers to the crime. There were originally over 10, but now we only have the 2. But last month their final appeal against their conviction was dismissed by the Supreme Court in Thailand which ruled that the forensic work was handled by respectable institutions and there was no proof of torture. Silje Mathisen 2014; They were acts of extreme barbarity. [44] In December 2014, the suspects were each indicted on five charges: premeditated murder, killing to conceal a criminal offence, rape, illegal entry into Thailand, and staying in the country without permission. The lawyers have also said the accused men were tortured and coerced into making confessions they later retracted. It is suggested David Miller was killed with a blunt piece of metal and not the rusty garden hoe first discovered at the scene and named as a murder weapon. The country's prime minister, who had been phoning the national police chief daily for updates on the investigation, said "this should not have happened at all, as it will affect Thailand in the eyes of the international community". Could you please describe them? In a hastily convened press conference in Bangkok today, Prayut said: 'I'm sorry that it hurt people. They said it was 'difficult to say' whether the pair's killer or killers was still on the island, and then claimed investigations had pointed them to a group seen on the beach playing the guitar and singing 'western songs'. At 7.47pm David and his friend Chris Ware were filmed walking towards the bar. The investigation of the Witheridge and Miller slayings was widely criticized as the crime scene was not properly secured, and questions were also raised about subsequent DNA testing. Ms Taupin did note however that the document that the prosecution relied upon was an Unendorsed Report in that it had no seal or stamp certifying that it had been produced by an accredited laboratory and in accordance with international standards. We earn a commission for products purchased through some links in this article. [58] Ostensibly, Wai Phyo changed jobs at the end of September and was travelling by boat to Surat Thani for his new job on the day he was arrested. In 2017, Belgian Elise Dallemagne was found dead in the jungle of Koh Tao in what police said was suicide by hanging - though her family rejected that explanation. 'Since Hannah was taken from us, I am continually asked whether I will warn the world about the dangers of Thailand,' she wrote on Facebook in 2016. Home Office pathologist Dr Nat Cary said Miss Witheridge had died from severe head injuries, consistent with multiple blows from the blade of a hoe wielded as a weapon and it was likely she would have died 'rapidly'. Police have, however, agreed to hand over the garden hoe which was the murder weapon, along with a shoe and a plastic bag. VideoRecord numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. The last pictures - on night backpackers beaten to death: New CCTV revealed as Thai police investigate copycat killing theory. The relevant standard in this case was ISO 17025. [15] Experts have considered the forensic investigation to have been incompetent, and to have possibly framed the suspects. The Mirror's Ariane went to see what all the fuss is about, Attacker tries to smash into house as cops 'blame football' for delay in 999 response, A householder who sheltered a woman from the man she claimed attacked her on the street claims police blamed Sunday's Wembley cup final for the time taken to respond to her 999 call, King Charles evicted Harry and Meghan 'just 24 hours after Spare was released', King Charles reportedly began the eviction process a day after Prince Harry's book Spare hit the shelves. Truth about Covid care home testing row: Timeline lays bare what was said, by who and when. They stated they were driven by a desire to rape the victim following sexual arousal when they saw the couple kissing on the beach. "Life is too important to take seriously.". [15], Zaw Lin and Wai Phyo retracted their statements following a visit from a consular lawyer for Myanmar and said they had made their statements under duress, after they had allegedly been beaten, left naked in a freezing room, and threatened with electrocution and an extrajudicial killing. 'Our family is broken and will never be the same again. Miss Witheridge's parents Tony and Susan Witheridge announced Laura's death today, saying they had been left in 'indescribable' pain. In a police interview Mr Ware told officers that David then told him he was going out to get some cigarettes but another friend revealed he went instead to nightclub AC to meet up with Hannah and her friend Emma Madeline. [66], On 24 December 2015, Zaw Lin and Wai Phyo were found guilty of murdering Witheridge and Miller by the three judges, and were sentenced to death. Is Daisy Jones adaptation based on Fleetwood Mac? The commissioner visited the murder scene yesterday but his officers were criticised after smiling and taking selfies. The fact that she is not here, affects us every day.'. Hannah was a fun, vibrant and beautiful young woman who will be sorely missed by all who knew her. Human error to blame for deadly train crash, says Greek PM, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece. by potty Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:52 am, Users browsing this forum: Google Feedfetcher, Newinkow, phuketrichard, yong and 69 guests. I shall post a link to your podcast on my Facebook page. September 20: Investigators now say there is no evidence to suggest Hannah Witheridge and David Miller were together on the day they died, with CCTV footage showing Mr Miller walking alone at around 1am. Students Hannah and David had attended a beach party before slipping away together at around 1am on Monday. Miss Witheridge's family said "senseless" photos of the crime scene had added to . Can they be safe in bikinis unless they are not beautiful?. The legal age you can get married has just changed, Charles & Camilla break major royal tradition, Courteney Cox speaks on Harry magic mushroom claim, Harry 'adding at least one more chapter' to memoir, Dylan responds to being misgendered on Instagram. Virat Asavachin (Mr Ban) 2002; Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Allegations about police brutality rocked the countrys economy that almost solely relies on tourism. Its a farce.. She sympathised with Hannah's family for their suffering over her 'tragic and unnecessary loss'. The discovery of the bodies last September sparked a major police investigation and intense local and international pressure to find those responsible. We won't comment on the trial process. They think our country is beautiful and is safe so they can do whatever they want, they can wear bikinis and walk everywhere. The fact that there are a lot of people out there who still somehow defend them is even more unbelievable. I remember seeing the pics 12 years ago and being horrified but I kept going back to look again . The Student Room and The Uni Guide are trading names of The Student Room Group Ltd. Register Number: 04666380 (England and Wales), VAT No. Mr Miller's father told ITV News that he did not want the Burmese migrants to be executed even though they 'have done something quite terrible and justice has been given to them'. A mistake that many forensic experts say jeopardized the entire investigation.Throughout the investigation and criminal trial, the Thai government and police were heavily criticized by human rights organizations, legal experts, and the media. Therefore, we would like to take this opportunity to ask that Hannah be allowed a well-deserved day of privacy on Friday whilst we join her many friends in a celebration of her life.". and 'why do you care?'. An English human rights activist by the name of Andy Hall asked me to put him in touch with the Melbourne forensic expert, Jane Taupin which I did. Read about our approach to external linking. [42] In the trial, the prosecution said the phone was found smashed at the home of a friend of Zaw Lin's. ", Mrs Miller said: "It's been hard, very hard. Typically you won't see crime scene pictures on there, especially ones this brutal. They believe she was murdered while trying to escape from a Buddhist cult. by potty Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:48 am, Post She said it is far from the beautiful country people talk of as she launched a scathing attack on the country saying many Thais had no regard for human life and treated people like dirt, Labelling Thai officials 'corrupt', she said court officials asked her family during the trial: 'Why are you here?' [62] They were both also charged with entering the country illegally, to which Wai Phyo had already confessed. Who's your favourite member of the royal family? [3] The murders were the first cases of homicide on the island in over eight years. [10][32] They highlighted a British tourist who had shared a room with Miller as a suspect, labelling it a "crime of passion"; he became the subject of a nationwide manhunt before the police quickly dropped the lead. Those images are shocking because Till is barely recognizable as a human. [14][22] The police moved the bodies to prevent them being swept up in the rising tide. The evidence in the form of this Unendorsed Report would have been ruled as inadmissible in US courts and other Western courts. Rocio Gomez; After unsuccessfully trying to find their possessions, they walked towards Mau Mau's house through the shortcut, which resulted in them being caught on CCTV. Christopher and James Ware were stopped at Suvarnabhumi International airport on their way back to Britain for questioning. [51][56][57] They argued that the defendants, since they were vulnerable as illegal migrant workers, were scapegoated by the police for the crime. There is a suggestion Mr Miller was coming to her aid when he was also killed. Her daughter had tried to allay her fears by talking to them by Skype or sending messages every day, she said. "Time makes the pain of this horrendous tragedy no easier to bear," they said in a statement. Rex Features. Hawara: 'What happened was horrific and barbaric'. Thai police efforts are blasted a 'joke' by residents as officials admit they are looking for 'multiple' suspects but do not know how many. Thai police take DNA swabs and footprints of migrant workers yards from the scene of the murder of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller on the island of Koh Tao in Thailand. I dont know if the killers are still on the island. Shelley Bot 2017; Yoshie Sazawa (Sharlyn) 2004; [15] Public prosecutors initially rejected the report, asking for "certain flaws" to be fixed, more information to be supplied, and for the report to be made "more succinct". The family said a funeral on Friday would be a private party to celebrate her life. [21][73], The death sentences were commuted to life imprisonment on 14 August 2020 following a royal decree to commemorate King Vajiralongkorn's birthday and "illustrate the king's clemency". So sad though! However, she had completely forgotten the draw had taken place, Is Arsenal vs Everton on TV? Very gruesome, theres one photo of his parents looking at him in the coffin and I really cant imagine what they mustve felt knowing theyd lost their son, he was murdered for nothing, and the horrible thing they were looking at was him. A local Western businessman though, who did not want to be named, criticised the police for allowing the boats to leave. - Dad's Army statue damaged by vandals for 3rd time, Firm announces FREE bus travel for mums on Mother's Day, Human error to blame for deadly train crash, says Greek PM, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. The men who killed Till were not mentally ill and they were not penalized or ostracized for their actions. . They are said to have confessed to the crime but later retracted their statements. [1] Receiving half a million visitors each year,[1] Koh Tao is especially popular with backpackers and known for its marine life and scuba diving. Zaw Lin and Win Zaw Htun were quickly arrested and later sentenced to death in 2015, a verdict that was upheld by the appeal court in 2017. [51] This decision was criticised by the Solicitors International Human Rights Group, one of the observers at the trial. [42][48] Amnesty International stated that Thailand "must initiate an independent, effective and transparent investigation into mounting allegations of torture and other ill-treatment by police". by potty Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:22 am, Post The team were only allowed to spend two hours on Koh Tao and did not meet with the suspects or defence. David and Hannah are just two of ten western tourists who are known to have been killed, died in suspicious circumstances, or gone missing on Koh Tao since 2012. [70] Wai Phyo was also convicted of theft for allegedly stealing a phone and sunglasses from Miller's body. The island of Koh Tao is located in Southern Thailand. The police investigation and criminal trial were widely criticised by international media, human rights organisations, and legal experts. ', By She allowed Jet magazine to print pictures of his dead body. That happened very close to my home (like, I could probably see the location if I went for a walk). Thailand beach murders: Hannah Witheridge's family beg for removal of graphic crime scene images circulating online Photos showing the battered bodies of Hannah, 23, and David Miller, 24, emerged . "Hannah was a fun, vibrant and beautiful young woman who will be sorely missed by all who knew her.". Samyak Choudhary; and Norfolk coroner Jacqueline Lake recorded a conclusion that Hannah had been unlawfully killed. Five days since the . In their verdict, a panel of two judges said the death sentences handed down by lower courts would be upheld as the men had been found guilty of murder and rape on the basis of evidence and forensic results. The prosecution says a DNA match between samples found on Miss Witheridge's body and the two defendants is central to its case. 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